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Our next virtual AAPI Pastors Gathering is Thursday, April 25, 2024 @ 12pm PDT / 2pm CDT / 3pm EDT, on the topic of “Inviting Whole-Person Spirituality in Community,” with special guests Dr. Nick Hsieh and Dr. Natalie Hsieh. Learn more about Nick & Natalie.

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About Nick & Natalie

Nick Hsieh has served in church ministry for almost two decades in youth and English adult ministries of ethnic Chinese and Taiwanese churches. He holds a Doctor of Ministry in Asian American ministry from Talbot School of Theology, and a Master of Theology with an emphasis in historical theology from Dallas Theological Seminary. He grew-up and went to college in San Diego, where studied psychology at the University of California, San Diego. Among his ministry passions is to see Christians have a more biblically informed spirituality, and to help them know and worship God more truly and rightly. Like his wife, Natalie, Nick is passionate about the integration of spirituality and mental health, and he has specifically studied the intersection of grace, shame, and singleness in the Chinese American church.


Natalie Hsieh is a high school therapist and — starting this fall — will be an assistant professor of clinical counseling at Point Loma Nazarene University in San Diego. She has a PhD in Systems, Families, and Couples, and master's in Marital & Family Therapy from Loma Linda University, a master's in Theological Studies from Bethel Seminary San Diego, and a master's and bachelor's in psychology from Stanford University. Natalie entered the mental health profession because she wanted to put words to human experience and to be a bridge builder for intergenerational healing and well-being in Asian American churches and families. Among Natalie's passions is helping Asian American Christian communities grow a vision for whole-person spirituality, grounded in greater awareness of how their collectivist, racial, and bicultural identities and relationships shape how they make meaning of God, community, family, and self. Her primary research has explored issues of face, race, and shame resilience among bicultural Chinese Americans.


Nick and Natalie grew up at the same church in San Diego and they have been married for sixteen years. God has blessed them with two kids — a son, Nehemiah, and a daughter, Naomi.

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